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Pestilent Industries
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Posted - 2011.11.30 13:15:00 -
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The new font is absolutely atrocious. Fix it. Bring back my old font or you will be the 21st percent. |
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Posted - 2011.11.30 23:40:00 -
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flank steak wrote:wow you have known this was coming out for about a month and you choose today to complain about it? Seriously forum warriors?
Endeavour Starfleet wrote:And people had their chance to provide feedback on the new font. They couldn't be bothered to test Sisi now they whine and scream on the forums.
CCP you did GREAT work on the new font. Please don't spend much dev time changing it because people can't be bothered to test.
The new font was complained about in the blog thread, test forum feedback thread, and in general discussion. Apparently you are ignorant of the facts. |
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Posted - 2011.11.30 23:43:00 -
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CCP t0rfifrans wrote:Jarnis McPieksu wrote:
The only real "fix" at this point would be to introduce fully switchable font typeface with at least a handful of different fonts that players could freely choose (with at least the ability to specify UI font and chat box font separately. Possibly also separate font for the overview).
In the short term, that's not that easy or cheap. The font has to be licensed and then adjusted to work within the client. That's expensive and time consuming. Also, just be clear, we are totally aware that some people don't like it, and that's their opinion and we respect that. When it comes to something like a typeface, its there are no moral absolutes or right or wrong. What we're saying is that overall, we and the majority of people providing feedback on it feel that it improves usability. During testing and first implementation, we had pretty much exactly the same discussion and split opinions within the larger dev team, btw.
You are "absolutely" wrong. The new font is terrible. |
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Posted - 2011.11.30 23:46:00 -
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CCP t0rfifrans wrote:Hey all
Obviously there are divided opinions on the new font, it being in front of everyone the whole time and a big part of the overall EVE experience. When designing the new font, there were two major paths which we had to choose between. Make it legible, and improve accessibility or make it sci-fi and futuristic, risking usability for asthetics. We chose to go down the usability path.
Now from what we can see, there are very heated opinions on the topic. We did a little quasi-scientific analysis of the forums chatter. There were 1220 posts on the topic at the time of counting, 960 unique characters posting ( with the top 50 posting 31% of the posts ). We counted 6% objecting the new font, 49% somewhat neutral and 45% writing in a positive manner about it.
Looking at that date, we determine than while many people miss the old font and want the new one printed in books in order to be burned Farenheit 451 style, the majority of those writing on the topic like it and are enjoying the improved usability.
Also, the UI scaling is a very separate feature than the font, it was just lucky that we managed to get them both into Crucible. The font and the scaling had been developed by very different people at separate ends of the studio on very different schedules. Being able to launch both of then in Crucible made us pretty happy in terms of providing increased usability, which is something EVE sorely needs improved and we are committed to work on ad infinitum.
Finally, don't pick on Punkturis for implementing the new font or the UI scaling! She did a great job on both and I think EVE is a better product as a result of it!
What a load of bull. Quit pulling numbers out of your behind. So many people hate the font and are not even posting here about it. The new font is terrible and ruins the game for a lot of us. Quit being fearless and be fearful, discerning, and listen to your thousands of unhappy customers. This fearless attitude is what got you into trouble in the first place. Just stop it. Pull your head out of the sand and fix it. The dev who created this font should be fired. |
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Posted - 2011.11.30 23:50:00 -
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Wow the old one is so much better. Sigh. |
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Posted - 2011.11.30 23:51:00 -
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Endeavour Starfleet wrote:Pestilent Industries wrote:CCP t0rfifrans wrote:Jarnis McPieksu wrote:
The only real "fix" at this point would be to introduce fully switchable font typeface with at least a handful of different fonts that players could freely choose (with at least the ability to specify UI font and chat box font separately. Possibly also separate font for the overview).
In the short term, that's not that easy or cheap. The font has to be licensed and then adjusted to work within the client. That's expensive and time consuming. Also, just be clear, we are totally aware that some people don't like it, and that's their opinion and we respect that. When it comes to something like a typeface, its there are no moral absolutes or right or wrong. What we're saying is that overall, we and the majority of people providing feedback on it feel that it improves usability. During testing and first implementation, we had pretty much exactly the same discussion and split opinions within the larger dev team, btw. You are "absolutely" wrong. The new font is terrible. They are "wrong" about their own development? And CCP is supposed to take you seriously why? Can I haz your stuff?
They are the same people who made Incarna, Nex, and neglected Eve for 3 years. Yes, they are wrong quite often. |
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Posted - 2011.11.30 23:58:00 -
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KrakizBad wrote:Holy crap you're mad. I like the new font.
I am happy some people are happy, those of us who are not happy need to be made happy by the company we pay. Get over us not liking it. CCP needs to fix it so we all like it, or at least more than half or whatever the percent is. There are a lot of unhappy people who absolutely hate it. That is not okay. |
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Posted - 2011.12.01 00:04:00 -
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simon pertwee wrote:Pestilent Industries wrote:KrakizBad wrote:Holy crap you're mad. I like the new font. I am happy some people are happy, those of us who are not happy need to be made happy by the company we pay. Get over us not liking it. CCP needs to fix it so we all like it, or at least more than half or whatever the percent is. There are a lot of unhappy people who absolutely hate it. That is not okay. And what about the players who are happy with the change? Myself included. We pay for eve as well.
They can keep the new font, or maybe just improve it a lot, or make a new one that you and I, and "most" other people like. Something to satisfy "most" everyone. Not this, cause too many people do not like it, regardless of how many do. Is that so unreasonable? |
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Posted - 2011.12.01 00:08:00 -
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simon pertwee wrote:Pestilent Industries wrote:Not this, cause too many people do not like it, regardless of how many do. Is that so unreasonable? How many is too many?
I don't know, all the people raging on the forum right now? 30%? 50%? More than care about Faction Warfare? More than care about POS fueling? More than cared about new T3 BC? Why do all the font lovers think that improving the existing for others is so terrible? Why don't they want their fellow Eve players to enjoy the font as well? Do you not think the new font can be improved upon? Why the rabid protection of the new font? |
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Posted - 2011.12.01 00:20:00 -
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simon pertwee wrote:Pestilent Industries wrote:I don't know, all the people raging on the forum right now? 30%? 50%? More than care about Faction Warfare? More than care about POS fueling? More than cared about new T3 BC? Why do all the font lovers think that improving the existing for others is so terrible? Why don't they want their fellow Eve players to enjoy the font as well? Do you not think the new font can be improved upon? Why the rabid protection of the new font? Your opinion is not fact.
It is a fact everyone posting about hating it, hates it. Heh.
Your post is a perfect example of the rabid fan boyism going on right now. Insanity. |
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Posted - 2011.12.02 01:56:00 -
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I am glad you didn't care, but I could care less about you. |
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